the same agrument could be made for stopping aborition. we talk all day long about the womens rights. by your agrument she also give that up by not keeping her pants on, but also give up more by lying. you are right the the child is the victim but the father is not the perp, that would be the mother.

I have been on both sides of this coin, both sides have valid points. I also watched Dr. Phil yesterday; I was quite impressed with Mel Feit and felt the same regarding Allred.

I have 19 year old son, the result of a failed, non-married relationship. His Bio-father paid child support from the age of 2 until he graduated high-school. The support was not voluntary or regular and he has not seen my son since he was 8. I am sure that if you spoke to his bio-father the story would be entrapment... blah, blah, blah. I have heard the story so many times from different men it has become a joke. I highly doubt that every man has been responsible and forthright about his intentions regarding children resulting from the sex they are about to have.

Birth control fails, that is a fact. Condoms break, pills get forgotten, should it be the woman’s sole responsibility for a child resulting in failed or forgotten contraception. The answer to that question is no. If a woman lies and does in fact entrap a man, how are you ever going to prove it? It will be his word against hers, as with most intimate relationships there are only two people present.

I did not sympathise with Dubay, the fact is that if his ex-girlfriend was taking responsibility for her body, he should have been taking responsibility for his... Buy some condoms or don’t have sex! Chances are better if her contraception failed, his wouldn’t have. To blindly believe that her contraception method was sound and to proceed unprotected is just plain stupid in this day and age. Dubay, being so adamant about not wanting children, did not consult his doctor about how to protect himself against unwanted pregnancy. Almost every woman has had this conversation with their doctor, mother or guidance councillor.

The victim in this case and all cases like it is the child. Should a child suffer for the mistakes of the parents? Should a child grow up fatherless because he didn’t want to be a parent? Dubay should step up to the plate as far as I am concerned.

I have been on the other side of the coin with my husband, who has been a wonderful dad to my son. It is frustrating and upsetting what some women will do and the lengths they will go to where children are concerned. I’ve seen good men, who love their children and pay their child support go through hell with their ex-wives and girlfriends. For some of those men, it would have been easier and better for the child had they walked away.

I have always preached to my son that he is responsible for his own body, condoms were readily available. Did I encourage him to have sex...? No! However if he was going to make the choice to have sex, I wanted him to be informed and protected.

If I was a man I would demand they come up with better birth control methods for men to take and be responsible for. That every doctor’s office had a large sign that says “MEN - Talk to your doctor about ways to protect yourself from unwanted pregnancy”! This is where the male advocacy agencies should be concentrating their efforts, and not after the fact!

I saw the show, and other shows that Mel Feit has been on. I'm thrilled he's going to be on JGL (not a fan of Feit myself but I do find his position intreguing). Keep us updated on when he will be on next week! Great interview catch Tammy!

P.S. What did you think of the anger and resentment held by the other couple on the show, the married couple with 2 kids who are paying child support for an ex-girlfriend's baby. The wife seemed very bitter about it all and the whole while I kept thinking, "wow, she's so jealous!" but then realized I would probably feel the same.

I pose this question in preparation...

What if the mother wanted the abortion but the father did not? Who do you think gets their way?

I though the women's rights movement was all about equality?

While I agree he should have to pay to support the child, this story touches on a bigger issue of how men are looked at when it comes to raising kids and the how they are looked at in the eyes of civil law.

Everytime you have intercourse you take the risk of a child being conceived. Nothing is 100% but not have sex at all. If you lie in the bed you got to pay the price if a child is conceived. Yes in some aspects of "men's reproductive right" like if a woman is pregnant that she only has the only choice of what will happen and the man has none. But no matter what if you are the father or the mother you must pay the price and support the child. It does go both ways. I know deadbeat dad and I know deadbeat moms. Yes the child suffers when one parent doesn't want anything to do with them. But the big thing is lets start thinking about the child that never asked to be here in the first place. To everyone out there......If you don't want to have a child with the person you are with just remember that birthcontrol doesn't always work so don't take the risk and don't sleep with them as accidents happen and you maybe stuck with them in your life for the next 18 years and sometimes longer.

He made his choice when he became intimate. He should pay child support. Sounds like the child is lucky not to have this jerk in her life.

The difference in rights here is that a woman puts her life at serious risk by proceeding with a pregnancy, a man does not. That is why the man's last choice is to become intimate. After that it is the woman's choice.

This is an interesting topic and I missed the show. I feel that Feit should pay but I don't think he has to have anything to do with the child if he doesn't want to. It's tragic but don't you think it would be better for the child to grow up sans father than with one who doesn't love him/her? That resents him/her?

On this theme I was intrigued to hear a story of back pay for a child a man never knew existed. Recently a friend of a friend was told he had to pay years of child support he missed out on even though he had no idea the child ever existed. The child is now 20 years old and wants to go to college - she needs tuition. This I don't understand. The woman purposefully kept the child from him, he had no opportunities to show he was interested in the child and now here he is having to remortgage the house, sell RRSPs, etc. because the courts said so.

Hey should pay child support.

But he should also be able to sue and collect from her for fraud. afterall, she did lie to him and that lie lead directly to him being forced to have to pay child support.

But yes, having a child is a responsiblity, and it amazes how the person who is the most wrong here (the mother) is the one who gets all the benifit and no consequence.